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	<title>Comments on: Panoramas vs. Photosynth (Part 3): Technical Characteristics</title>
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		<title>By: Panoramas vs. Photosynth: Qualitative Comparison &#171; All Things Visual</title>
		<link>http://allthingsv.com/2009/08/04/panoramas-vs-photosynth-part-3-technical-characteristics/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Panoramas vs. Photosynth: Qualitative Comparison &#171; All Things Visual]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Part 3: Technical Characteristics [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tribe Sourcing, Crowd Sourcing, and Automation &#171; All Things Visual</title>
		<link>http://allthingsv.com/2009/08/04/panoramas-vs-photosynth-part-3-technical-characteristics/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tribe Sourcing, Crowd Sourcing, and Automation &#171; All Things Visual]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the crowd to make sense of a real place, but it&#8217;s yet to be seen that this technology can conquer the world.  (In fact, I&#8217;m looking forward to a new research publication coming out this September). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the crowd to make sense of a real place, but it&#8217;s yet to be seen that this technology can conquer the world.  (In fact, I&#8217;m looking forward to a new research publication coming out this September). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mok Oh</title>
		<link>http://allthingsv.com/2009/08/04/panoramas-vs-photosynth-part-3-technical-characteristics/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mok Oh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice!  Thanks.  Yes, the actual paper is done by folks from Cornell, University of Washington, and Microsoft (also called Photo Tourism).  They will present their new research work at ICCV 2009 (http://www.iccv2009.org/) end of September.  

I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll be very interesting and look forward to it implemented and published to the masses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice!  Thanks.  Yes, the actual paper is done by folks from Cornell, University of Washington, and Microsoft (also called Photo Tourism).  They will present their new research work at ICCV 2009 (<a href="http://www.iccv2009.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iccv2009.org/</a>) end of September.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll be very interesting and look forward to it implemented and published to the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: ricardo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply.  One more point - in terms of scalability I saw this on boingboing a few days back: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/08/04/rome-in-a-day-projec.html   It looks like they&#039;ve been able to scale photosynth to city-scale data sets?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply.  One more point &#8211; in terms of scalability I saw this on boingboing a few days back: <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/08/04/rome-in-a-day-projec.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2009/08/04/rome-in-a-day-projec.html</a>   It looks like they&#8217;ve been able to scale photosynth to city-scale data sets?</p>
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		<title>By: Mok Oh</title>
		<link>http://allthingsv.com/2009/08/04/panoramas-vs-photosynth-part-3-technical-characteristics/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mok Oh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ricardo,

Thanks for your comment!  

First, very keen point on combining the two.  Google has done something there (but not quite photosynthie), and there&#039;s also a surprise coming from EveryScape as well (See video at 2:30 mark on for the demo http://allthingsv.com/2009/06/30/mobile-reality-demo/).  So, I do agree that combination would be perhaps the best of both worlds.  

BUT, as I said, this to-combine-or-not-to-combine issue could be a &quot;philosophical&quot; thing, where Microsoft wants to make sure that crowd-sourceability-ness remains untarnished for Photosynth.  Crowd-sourceability-ness is a VERY powerful notion and a differentiator.  (Or perhaps MS will come out with another product).

As to your point of apples-to-oranges, yes, I am trying to make this into an apples-to-apples comparison by saying that the premise is photographically capturing the world, and that by panos, I mean a la EveryScape or Google. (I was hoping that the picture of Dr. Evil made that clear ;-) 

Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ricardo,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!  </p>
<p>First, very keen point on combining the two.  Google has done something there (but not quite photosynthie), and there&#8217;s also a surprise coming from EveryScape as well (See video at 2:30 mark on for the demo <a href="http://allthingsv.com/2009/06/30/mobile-reality-demo/" rel="nofollow">http://allthingsv.com/2009/06/30/mobile-reality-demo/</a>).  So, I do agree that combination would be perhaps the best of both worlds.  </p>
<p>BUT, as I said, this to-combine-or-not-to-combine issue could be a &#8220;philosophical&#8221; thing, where Microsoft wants to make sure that crowd-sourceability-ness remains untarnished for Photosynth.  Crowd-sourceability-ness is a VERY powerful notion and a differentiator.  (Or perhaps MS will come out with another product).</p>
<p>As to your point of apples-to-oranges, yes, I am trying to make this into an apples-to-apples comparison by saying that the premise is photographically capturing the world, and that by panos, I mean a la EveryScape or Google. (I was hoping that the picture of Dr. Evil made that clear <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ricardo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that you are comparing apples and oranges.  A panorama is a wide field-of-view image taken from a fixed position.  A photosynth is a registered collection of images taken from multiple positions.  They are complementary technologies and not two-sides of coin.  There is nothing stopping Photosynth from including panoramic images.  In fact G&#039;s streetview is taking steps in this direction with their integration of user content.

I think perhaps you are meaning to compare a systematically captured set of panos to an unordered set of images arranged via photosynth - but your article didn&#039;t make this clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that you are comparing apples and oranges.  A panorama is a wide field-of-view image taken from a fixed position.  A photosynth is a registered collection of images taken from multiple positions.  They are complementary technologies and not two-sides of coin.  There is nothing stopping Photosynth from including panoramic images.  In fact G&#8217;s streetview is taking steps in this direction with their integration of user content.</p>
<p>I think perhaps you are meaning to compare a systematically captured set of panos to an unordered set of images arranged via photosynth &#8211; but your article didn&#8217;t make this clear.</p>
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